paul hope 25/11/2009 at 22:37

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   Great news when can we start returning failed asylum seekers from the East Manchester ghetto !!!

   Nicely put Black Flag!!! I for one would much prefer this lady and child living in the UK than "Mum Attached Four in Drunken Range" person.

   they have gone.so what big deal.im not botherd

   "Them two should have been made to take the first safe country they first land on NOT the UK!!! "

Land being the key word, possibly they flew, rather than walked and the filght was to the UK? Anyway the Dublin protocol means assylum applications should be judged using the same means in all EU countries, and allows for refugess to move to country within the EU where they may have family or comunity links (I think, laywers feel free to correct me on this).

   Why should we taxpayers have to support every waif and stray that turns up on our doorstep??.....because nulabour have for years allowed every waif and stray with opens arms and a blank taxpayers checque book!

Her being deported is the exception to the rule!.....only another several million to go!

   Ahhh Brooklands - Bless you....you are naive....

Yes some immigrants come here to work - and contribute to the economy...Many of the most affluent Countries are founded on immigration...the US, Australia and to some extent the UK. However many immigrants come here as bogus "asylum seekers" to claim benefits and bleed the system dry. Unfortunately the current Government has not got to grips with immigration and has taken years to adopt an Australian style points system. Thus our crowded isle has accepted more immigrants than it or its public services can handle. Why would a genuine refugee fleeing persecution from a country many thousands of miles away first claim asylum in the UK if it werent for the benefits and "human rights implications"?? Why are you so upset at these two being deported when they have crossed numerous countries - when claiming to be in fear of their lives. If you think people are harsh - let me know your address and I will send you a bill for the amount of taxes I pay to subsidise such eco-immigrants. Hamish

Can't disagree with you that the govt have been slow off the blocks with the Aussie style points system, that however only applies to migrants coming specifically to work. It does not cover asylum seekers which are a totally different kettle of fish.

I'd say the main reason a lot of asylum seekers whether genuine or bogus come to the UK (and you hear this when they're interviewed) is because the UK is seen as a friendly country with friendly people willing to welcome the poor and needy. Where they get that impression from is beyond me however as the posters on this site elegantly prove.

The other reason is that a lot of these asylum seekers and economic migrants come from regions of the world we ruled (for ruled read robbed blind) and they see an historic connection between their and our countries.

As has been stated most if not all asylum seekers whether genuine or bogus would rather work than claim benefits but they are not permitted to. They have to claim benefits and if you've ever tried to exist on benefits I'm sure you'd agree it's not much fun.

Thanks for your blessing though, shows what a caring soul you are.

    kenya is a large country if she didnt want to see her husband easy solution move to another kenyan city hundreds of miles away from nairobi

   Hamish Macbeth: "Why would a genuine refugee fleeing persecution from a country many thousands of miles away first claim asylum in the UK if it werent for the benefits and "human rights implications"??"

You mean the human rights implications which are exactly the same throughout the entire European continent, with the exception of Belarus?

Maybe it's because they see how thick some people are in the UK and figure it will be easy for them to offer more value than a large chunk of the existing population.

   Them two should have been made to take the first safe country they first land on NOT the UK!!!

   Hellas

What part of my question about which measure of child poverty was being used prompted your rant about the rerlative merits of British or other people?

   I think we would be better off shipping those members of our society out to Kenya who do not contribute anything.

We could start with the Royal family and work allong via the house of commons and Lords and the banking system then on to professional benefit scroungers. A mass deportation of those who suck hard working people dry.

Oh yes not forgetting local council officials

Then we could invite back Ms Wanjohi who is a teacher to make a positve contibution to our society

   Good work by the authorities. Now get cracking with the next case.

   this country cannot take every asylum seeker in. its got to come to the point when enough is enough. this girl and her baby maybe genuine but there is a lot that are not. we cannot afford to let anybody and everybody into this country something has to give we cannot cope with the extra burden on schools hospitals housing etc.many see this country as a easy ticket to benefits and health care this cannot go on.we have our own unemployed due to the current climate also we have huge waiting lists for housing so where are these asylum seekers going to live and work they should be vetted when they get here and if they have no place to work or live therefore should be sent back its common sense thats all.

   Ahhh Brooklands - Bless you....you are naive....

Yes some immigrants come here to work - and contribute to the economy...Many of the most affluent Countries are founded on immigration...the US, Australia and to some extent the UK. However many immigrants come here as bogus "asylum seekers" to claim benefits and bleed the system dry. Unfortunately the current Government has not got to grips with immigration and has taken years to adopt an Australian style points system. Thus our crowded isle has accepted more immigrants than it or its public services can handle. Why would a genuine refugee fleeing persecution from a country many thousands of miles away first claim asylum in the UK if it werent for the benefits and "human rights implications"?? Why are you so upset at these two being deported when they have crossed numerous countries - when claiming to be in fear of their lives. If you think people are harsh - let me know your address and I will send you a bill for the amount of taxes I pay to subsidise such eco-immigrants.

   Andy from Bury - you claim that people are ignorant for failing to make the distinction between "asylum seeker" and "illegal immigrant". Is it not perhaps you failing to realise that there is also a third option "economic migrant" which probably applies to many of the asylum cases in this country. If this woman genuinely feared her husband or his sect, why not go elsewhere in Kenya? Or in Africa? But she came to Hyde? Come on. I'm surprised she didn't try and claim to be from Darfur.

    I for one am sick to death of hearing about how a lot of asylum seekers are because things are so bad in thier countries and for a few that is true but,the majority are hear for the benefits and housing that they cant get elsewhere,I worked in a hotel that had 14 asylum seekers and only 2 were genuine,three in particular had been working in greece for two years and decided to come here,one of them told me he came because he could get money for him and his brother and brother in law,who by the way had left wives and children over there,these were bosnian men who fled thier country when thye were at war,these were young men so,why weren't they over there fighting for thier country,I'll tell you why not only were they cowards but they got paid off our goverment for being so,,Iknow not all asylum seekers arelike that but,most are

   Careless Whisper, thanks for your thoughts buddy, I normally post on a forum where the comments can be much more biting and personal these lot are pussy cats really. Also the posters on my regular forum are also a lot more intelligent than the average on here! ;)

   asylum seekers are not illegal immigrasnts by the way folks. Of course such distinctions don't bother the clueless.

   Stevedore, Go look at the figures. You're chatting bubbles. The kind of bubbles which typify the ignorant ramblings on this issue by so many a frothy mouthed MEN commentator.

   Brook Lands: Don't take the bait. They get some kind of sick kick winding you up. If you leave them alone they get bored and go away. Bullies always do. If it is not you they would pick on someone else. I'm only too familiar with this little gang of regular posters, as they have also bashed the hell out of my comments. They do not comment mainly on articles in question. They lay in wait for a victim poster and rip their comments to shreads even if they do in reallity agree with you. Sad. I know-but there you have it.

   Brook Lands

Are you talking about one fellow human being or are you referring to the estimated 1,000,000 (yes thats right one million) illegal immigrants living in the UK and those queuing up to get in. As one who welcomes these people with open arms where do you draw the line? Stevedore, Quayside

I wouldn't, come one come all. There was a massive fuss about Polish people coming to this country "because they'll suck us dry" and what was revealed as the truth? They contributed to a net increase in this countries wealth. They did jobs none of the indiginous dolites would do, they clean our hospitals and sweep our streets, all jobs "too good" for the British.

Criminals are a different matter of course but economic migrants don't come here for benefits they come to work and they work a load harder than most Brits would ever dream of doing.

The real solution of course would be if these people didn't have to come here in the first place, if their homes had better jobs or better security. Whichever way you look at it we in the west have sucked the rest of the world dry and now we're paying for it. Either by paying more for clothes, food etc or not screwing these countries over regarding debts.

But of course, why shouldn't we have it both ways? Keep their kids in sweatshops so we can have cheap trainers but if they have the audacity to want to improve their lives then they better not try it here eh!

   Stevedore, Quayside,

Phew, yer fingers must sweating lad!:)

I'm going for me tea. I'll back for round 2!!

Ha Ha.

   Brook Lands

Are you talking about one fellow human being or are you referring to the estimated 1,000,000 (yes thats right one million) illegal immigrants living in the UK and those queuing up to get in. As one who welcomes these people with open arms where do you draw the line?

   Why do they always pick on the easy targets? It is the way of the world,ie.young mum gets fined for feeding ducks and yobs rampage the streets everywhere.If the yobs were to throw bread,would they then be prosecuted? You know they won't as they may thump the people trying to fine them! There are thousands of young male Afghans in Britain and queuing up in France to come here. They should be sent back and conscripted into the Afghan army! Steady paid job,isn't it? Better than drawing benefits here!